Slumberhouse Sadanne: Days of Wine & Roses



Garnet wine and rubied roses with iridescent flashes of green-black earthiness; tart, tangy cherries with bitter almonds; syrupy fruits and sweet dessert — these are a few of the faces of Sadanne, a new fragrance from Slumberhouse, an indie brand out of Portland, Oregon run by the highly respected, talented Josh Lobb. I found his latest creation to be joyous, bright, and cheerful, not to mention very fun to wear. At times, Sadanne took me deep into Germany’s Black Forest with its tart Kirschwasser liqueur centered on sour Morello cherries and bitter almonds. On other occasions, it conjured up “Old Vines” Zinfandel wine with a dash of fruity Pinot Noir, and Ernest Dawson’s famous phrase about “days of wine and roses.” In short, it feels like an alcoholic’s gourmand interpretation of roses, and I don’t mean that in a bad way at all. Regular readers know just how much I love boozy, alcoholic, or wine-like notes in my perfumes. (I swear, I’m not a lush!)

Theoretically, Sadanne is a rose fragrance, but it was created by a man who shudders at the note and has always avoided making any floral scent up until now. I share Mr. Lobb’s squeamishness, and prefer my roses to be gagged, drowned, and then beaten to a whimpering pulp by other elements — preferably of an oriental nature. So when I heard that a rose-hater had made a rose fragrance that he could wear, partially as a challenge to himself, I knew I had to try it. I’m glad I did.

Photo: my own.

Photo: my own.

Mr. Lobb kindly sent me a bottle of Sadanne, and also wrote to me about its inspiration and character. It’s just as well, because the Slumberhouse website talks about the new fragrance with Lutenesque obliqueness:

Photo: my own.

Photo: my own.

Stained glass syrup
Serenades in damascone minor
Allegory obscured / pastel wound
A slurry of subtlety

note list unavailable.

In an email to me, Mr. Lobb provided more details, explaining not only how Sadanne was meant to push him out of his comfort zone as a perfumer, but also how he perceives the fragrance. He gave me permission to quote him:

[T]here were things I never thought I’d touch. I’ve never been drawn to florals, and of all the flowers out there nothing pushed me away more than rose. I just hate looking at the word rose, in print. But after Zahd, I knew I wanted to expand my horizons and challenge myself as well as those into my line.

Nothing was more challenging to me than the prospect of a rose perfume. Instead of going for something dark and dusky I went in a very different direction, almost alien. When creating it I tried to keep in mind the idea of a scent not born from this world, hence not releasing a note list for this release. I wanted something glossy and shimmery but with an undercarriage of juxtaposition, introspective, slightly menacing.

I find absolutely nothing “alien” or “menacing” in Sadanne, but rather something incredibly happy, bright, and cheery — and that is one reason why I found Sadanne so enjoyable to wear. In fact, there are times when I’d call Sadanne positively playful and reeking of innocence. So, in that regard, Mr. Lobb’s mission for “menace” did not succeed, at least for me.



As for the notes in Sadanne, he won’t say what they are. Mr. Lobb frequently uses extremely unusual ingredients that I’ve never heard of and have to research (I’ll never get over his “Dittany of Crete” in Ore), so it almost seems pointless to guess what exactly is involved here. Still, I’m a little OCD and enjoy a challenge, so I couldn’t resist taking a stab at the note list. It turns out that almost all the ingredients I guessed, other than the obvious rose, were incorrect. I’m stumped, but highly amused. Nevertheless, you might be interested in the elements I smelt on my skin (as opposed to what was actually used), and what my guess had been for the note list:

Rose, pink lotus blossom absolute, cherries, raspberries, bitter almonds, violets, earthiness, balsamic resins, bitter almonds, and something mossy or green.



Interestingly, one of Sadanne’s stockists, the Portland boutique of Alder & Co., thinks the scent has a very different profile:

Syrupy strawberry and animalic ambergris swirl together in this intoxicating elixir. Balsamic and rich, Sådanne proves to be another unique and beautiful addition to the Slumberhouse line.

Sadanne never opens on my skin quite the same way, because the small details always differ. The broad brush strokes, however, remain consistent in the first few minutes, and they invariably boil down to: “syrupy fruits.” To be more precise, a flood of heavily sweetened, syrupy fruits which gushes over the rose in a bouquet that always feels like some form of dessert.

"Powder Palace" painting, ARTbyKristen on Etsy. (Website link to her Etsy shop embedded within.)

“Powder Palace” painting, ARTbyKristen on Etsy. (Website link to her Etsy shop embedded within.)

The finer points have varied from wearing to wearing. Twice, it was cherry Kool-Aid — both the drink and the finely crystallized powder — that encrusted the leaves of a pale pink rose. Twice, it was a dark, vermillion rose with iridescent black-greenness that grew out of musky, ripe earth and was then drenched with tart Morello cherries. I’m a cherry addict, and can eat pounds of the fruit in one sitting, so this opening entranced me with its sour tanginess. The fifth time I wore Sadanne, I finally encountered the strawberries mentioned in the Alder & Co. description, and I was not enthused. I’ll talk more about the strawberries later, but, as I sit here writing and wearing Sadanne for the sixth time, I’m back to different forms of cherries and roses, so that seems to be the perfume’s main focus on my skin.

I think Sadanne is a fragrance that rewards close attention. On the surface, it consistently seems like syrupy fruits with fluctuating levels of rose, and little else. If you focus, however, you can see small details emerge like fine brushstrokes of colour on an extremely colourful canvas. For example, there are wisps of purple from a touch of violets that appeared in my Kool-Aid version of the fragrance, dancing around the pale pink rose in a way that reminded me of YSL‘s vintage Paris. A light dusting of powdered sweetness accentuated the impression, and the rather girlish feel to the scent. Tiny flickers of raspberry, bitter almonds, and damp earthiness rounded up the tale.

Balsamic vinegar reduction. Photo: Jenna at Eat, Live, Run. (Website link embedded within.)

Balsamic vinegar reduction. Photo: Jenna at Eat, Live, Run. (Website link embedded within.)

All but one of my versions of Sadanne eventually lead to the same place, centered on a darker, tarter, more balsamic and liqueured fragrance, sometimes sooner rather than later. I wasn’t fond of the Kool-Aid version, but even that is only a momentary bouquet which begins to change within 15 minutes or so. Sadanne’s extreme sweetness and the powdered, fruity crystals begin to dissipate, and a mossy greenness takes their place. Roughly 30 minutes in, the rose becomes more liqueured in feel, while the cherries turn into the same sort of concentrated, reduced balsamic vinegar glaze that marked the cranberries in Slumberhouse’s Zahd. The fruits are now like a cherry cordial that is tart and tangy instead of sugared, powdery, or granular.

Cherry sangria made from Kirsch and Zinfandel wine. Source:

Cherry sangria made from Kirsch and white/pink Zinfandel wine. Source:

As the dark, ruby wine seeps over the petals, Sadanne begins to change. It slowly loses its girlish YSL/Paris resemblance, the rose turns from pink to vermillion, and the drink goes from Kool-Aid to a grown-up’s after-dinner digestif to accompany a tart cherry pie. It all reminds me terribly of Kirschwasser, an unsweetened fruit brandy that is served in Germany as an after-dinner digestif. As Wikipedia explains, this is an eau de vie that is not sweet like regular Kirsch because it is made from sour Morello cherries. It also has an undertone of bitter almond that derives from the stones. All of that is exactly what is happening here on my skin.

Roughly 45 minutes into its development, Sadanne feels like tart Kirschwasser that has been reduced down and concentrated a hundred-fold, atop a thin layer of ruby rose. By the start of the second hour, the liqueur has completely overwhelmed (if not buried) the flower, and it’s also had a serious dampening effect on the tiny flickers of violet and earthiness as well. It takes an incredibly long time for the rose to become dominant again, as much as 10 hours or so in this incredibly long-lasting fragrance. At that point, the rose turns back to its pale pink shade again, but it remains lightly imbued with a touch of tangy cherries and a drop of bitter almonds. Sadanne endures unchanged with that bouquet until its very end, roughly 18 hours from the start.



The cherry Kirschwasser version of Sadanne frequently made me want to lick my arm, but it’s not as good or as interesting as the 2nd version of Sadanne with its more wine-like, red Zinfandel roses infused with darkness, deep earthiness, and flashes of green. In two of my tests, Sadanne opened immediately with an earthy, almost woody rose, flecked with darkness and only a touch of cherries.



The earthy note is hard to pinpoint or explain. It is not precisely like black soil, either damp or dry. Nor is it exactly like the riper, more animalic, muskier aroma of mulch. It’s a mix of both things. On a rare occasion, it also has the sort of robust, dark aroma that you get from used coffee or expresso grinds. The only word which keeps coming to mind is “fecund,” in the sense that William Faulkner used it throughout his novel, Light in August: namely, a deeply earthy ripeness. (The word is indelibly linked in my mind to his book and his Lena, a character who I once recall being described in terms of a flower blooming out of rich, black earth.)

Pink Lotus Blossom. Photo by Живая Земля on Facebook.

Pink Lotus Blossom. Photo by Живая Земля on Facebook.

Behind the earthy rose lurk other elements. There is a note of bitter almonds which accompanies the cherries, but much more significant is the greenness which contrasts against the rose’s darkness. Like the earthy undertone, the greenness is hard to describe. It’s nothing like the fusty, mineralized sort of oakmoss that you encounter in classic chypres, nor is it like the plush greenness of patchouli. Instead, it’s a multi-faceted element that reminds me repeatedly of the Pink Lotus Blossom Absolute in Papillon Perfumes‘ glorious, stunning, dark, animalic, and leathery Anubis, one of the best fragrances that I’ve tried this year. Pink Lotus Blossom Absolute lies at the heart of Anubis, and its perfumer, Liz Moores, described its nature to me as follows:

Pink lotus absolute has the texture and appearance of thick black treacle and even when standardised with alcohol at 20% it loses none of its darkness. There is nothing pretty about this material; it is earthy and rich with flashes of green medicinal facets that appear and then disappear, morphing into subtle leather notes and re emerging like a floral washed oakmoss. It possesses a distinct headiness but not the type to make you swoon. It is far more contemplative and sharp.

There is a lot about pink lotus that reminds me of oakmoss and it behaves in a very similar way within a composition. The one difference I noticed between the two is that oakmoss lends a formula a more woody effect, rich in bark and moss notes whereas pink lotus shifts the focus more upon the green foliage and tannery aspects. When oakmoss and pink lotus are blended together the effects are simply stunning and I wonder if the ‘missing link’ with the restrictions on oakmoss can be successfully bridged using pink lotus. It will never and could never replicate oakmoss but when they sit side by side in a formula the pink lotus certainly amplifies the oakmoss notes. [Emphasis added by me.]

Abstract Rose by James-Chesnick via

Abstract Rose by James-Chesnick via

Josh Lobb assures me that there is no Pink Lotus Absolute in the Sadanne, but whatever he’s used feels identical to both Liz Moore’s description and to the note in Anubis (which also has a bit of rose in it, by the way, and which has now made me quite obsessed with Pink Lotus Absolute). Sadanne’s base has a definite vein of earthy, dark greenness with foliage notes and a treacly, balsamic feel. It’s all quite subtle at times, even more so as the perfume develops, alas, but when it flashes its iridescent colours, it adds some complexity to what would otherwise be quite a simple fragrance. And, man, is that part of Sadanne good.

One of my favorites, the powerhouse "7 Deadly Zins," Old Vines wine from the Lodi region which has some of the best Zins, imo. Source:

One of my favorites, the powerhouse “7 Deadly Zins,” Old Vines wine from the Lodi region which has some of the best Zins, imo. Source:

Less than 10 minutes into its development, the cherry note in this version explodes like a supernova of tart, sour, tangy rubies. Thankfully, there are no Kool-Aid crystals dusted over these fruits, and no violets, either. However, Zahd’s balsamic vinegar reduction glaze does appear again. It’s different, though, as Sadanne has none of its sibling’s chocolate or sweeter undertones. Instead, thanks to the “Pink Lotus Blossom”-like element, it is darker and more tannic than anything in Zahd, and far less candied. This version of Sadanne doesn’t remind me of cherry cordials or Kirschwasser, but of an entirely different drink. To be precise, “Old Vines” aged, tannic Zinfandel wine lightly mixed with a touch of the fruitier, sweeter Pinot Noir, both with nuances of grapes as much as cherries, and the occasional wisp of raspberries.



At the end of the first hour, Sadanne is a wine-like rose with dashes of iridescent greenness atop an earthy base that resembles Pink Lotus Blossom Absolute. I found it interesting how the rose was much more front and center in this version. Yet, sooner or later, all the versions of Sadanne always end up being dominated by fruit on my skin. It’s a merely a slower progression this time around. For a full two hours, the rose is on show, but Sadanne slowly begins to shift. By the end of the 5th hour, the grapes and wine go head to head with the rose for dominance. Sometimes they win, sometimes the rose triumphs. At the same time, occasional wisps of raspberries appear, and the fecund, ripe earthiness begins to fade. Sadanne eventually loses all vestiges of both its greenness and that underlying darkness. As the layers peel back, all that is left is soft wine seamlessly blended with roses, cherries, and raspberries. Then, in its final moments, there are only the petals of a pale rose lightly flecked by an abstract fruitiness.

Macerated strawberries. Source:

Macerated strawberries. Source:

In talking with Mr. Lobb, he mentioned that some people encountered a “strawberries and champagne” fragrance, but I insisted that there were only cherries on my skin. Then, I tried Sadanne a fifth time…. This time, the fragrance opened with syrupy strawberries and painful, excessive sweetness that hit every one of my negative buttons.

For three full hours, the rose was heavily hidden behind a wave of Smuckers-like strawberry syrup, with little counterbalance in the form of tartness and absolutely no earthiness, darkness, greenness or liqueured notes. I have minimal tolerance for excessive sweetness, and even the prior versions of Sadanne had occasionally toyed with my upper limits, but this was going too far. I was filled with panicky thoughts of, “Get it off me, get it off me!” Admittedly, Sadanne does improve — eventually — and slowly takes on a less painful syrupness as a tiny droplet of tanginess emerges and a golden rose takes over. Nevertheless, as a whole, my response to the strawberry version of Sadanne was an absolute, very firm, “no es bueno.”

All of this brings me to something I found to be critical in experiencing Sadanne: quantity matters. I say this occasionally for a few fragrances, and did so for Zahd as well, but Sadanne is henceforth going to be my prime example that quantity may make a significant difference in terms of which version of the fragrance you experience and what notes are amplified. In a nutshell, all the versions that I’ve recounted to you here today go from Least to Most in terms of the amount of fragrance that I applied:



  • The smallest amount of Sadanne (1 small spray) brought out the cherry Kool-Aid, its powder, the violets, and the YSL Paris connection, before turning into tart Kirschwasser.
  • Using 1.5 sprays of Sadanne gave me an even shorter Kool-Aid period and far more tart cherry liqueur.
  • The middle amount (2 to 2.5 sprays) gave me the best version of Sadanne with the most complexity, a more visible rose note, a lovely amount of the Pink Lotus Blossom-like undertones, the aged, tannic Zinfandel wine, and little of the Kool-Aid powder;
  • The large amount of Sadanne (3 good sprays and up) led to catastrophe as the sweetness exploded in my face like a golden, strawberry syrup bomb that pulverized every atom of nuance, darkness, tartness, or counter-balance.
"Cottage Garden Rose-Petal Syrup ."Photo: BecR on

“Cottage Garden Rose-Petal Syrup .”Photo: BecR on

You should avoid that last version of Sadanne at all costs unless you simply adore feeling as though you’re covered with strawberry goo and are a hardcore gourmand fanatic. Frankly, I found it to be unbearable, though I do admit that things improved after 5 hours and the perfume slowly transitioned into a pale pink, fruity rose with less excruciating golden sweetness. Still, it was too much for me, and I vowed never again to apply a lot of the fragrance.

In short, you have to be Goldilocks when it comes to Sadanne, and to keep in mind that quantity will be as important as skin chemistry in determining what notes come out to play on your skin. The result seems to be a very personalized, individual equation which makes it hard for me to give you guidelines as to whether or not Sadanne would be for you. If you don’t like gourmands or fruity fragrances, I’m dubious as to whether you’d enjoy Sadanne, even if you did encounter the wine-like or liqueured versions. If you have minimal tolerance for sweetness and your skin chemistry amplifies those notes, then Sadanne will probably not be for you, either.



It’s even harder to know what to say to those who are fans of Slumberhouse’s earlier fragrances. “Fruity Florals” are probably the very last thing that they associate with the brand. In other ways, too, however, Sadanne feels like a marked departure Josh Lobb’s earlier fragrances. There is none of the darkness which imbued such scents as Jeke, or any of the Slumberhouse spices and frequent goldenness. Sadanne does have their richness, occasional linearity, and long lifespan, but I think it is a much simpler fragrance that lacks the layers of such scents as Sova, Ore, Zahd, or Pear + Olive.

However, Sadanne comes with benefits that several of those fragrances did not have. For one thing, it is never as unctuous as Pear + Olive. It doesn’t feel as if you’re being force-fed with endless cakes when you only asked for one slice, which was my issue with Ore. For another, Sadanne feels much better balanced than some of the other scents in the line. Its notes are smoother, less rough around the edges, and less loud, though Sadanne still retains the Slumberhouse signature of boldness. So, yes, there is much less complexity, but there is also greater ease and approachability. It’s the sort of fragrance you can just put on and enjoy.

Photo: my own.

Photo: my own.

It also feels great to wear, texturally and volume-wise, in a way that I didn’t always find with some of the other Slumberhouse fragrances. In its opening hour, Sadanne has great boldness, with rather enormous sillage, too, if you use a lot. When I applied 2 good sprays, it created a plush cloud of wine-drenched petals that floated 6 or 7 inches at first. Yet, there was an unexpected softness to the robust notes. By Slumberhouse’s standards (which are admittedly unusual in skewing heavily in the direction of opaque, unctuous density), Sadanne was practically sheer and light.

"A Taste of Crimson" by Leauphaun at (Website link embedded within.)

“A Taste of Crimson” by Leauphaun at (Website link embedded within.)

I grant you, it’s all highly relative, but I really found the perfume to have a lovely, easy weight about it. There was none of Zahd’s textural graininess or jangly bits, or Pear + Olive’s oily, overwhelming richness. Instead, for the first three hours, Sadanne flows gracefully over you with the texture of liquid satin. Later, the perfume turns down quite a few notches, simmering just above your skin for hours and hours. As compared to something like Jeke, Sadanne is practically sotto voce.

I’ve always struggled with the deadly Slumberhouse duo of untrammeled intensity combined with massive duration. The prior fragrances were always thoroughly enjoyable at first, but they consistently wore me out and exhausted me because they remained at the same loud, very linear volume for eternity. Zahd was a huge and very significant improvement in that regard, but Sadanne takes it one step further. It isn’t a blustery perfume at all. And, yet, Sadanne never sacrifices its richness or depth, nor does it completely lose all of Slumberhouse’s rather famous longevity. For example, the very bright supernova of the opening and its initially massive 6-7 inch projection begin to soften within an hour; then, roughly 90-minutes in, the sillage decreases to about 4 inches, and continues to drop as time passes.

Photo: my own.

Photo: my own.

By the start of the 4th hour, Sadanne consistently hovers about a half-inch above my skin where it remains for some time. The fragrance generally turns into a skin scent on me roughly around the 6th hour (depending on quantity), though it is still easy to detect up close for quite a while. Regardless of amount, however, Sadanne consistently lasts 14 hours or more on my skin, even if it is just a gauzy wisp of pink petals after the 10th hour and required me to put my nose right on the skin. I should mention that in one test, I could still detect traces of a fruity rose hanging on tenaciously after the 18th hour.

I think Sadanne reflects the continuing evolution of Josh Lobb, and a heightened sense of refinement in his approach. Like prior Slumberhouse fragrances, Sadanne is not for everyone, but I think it may be the brand’s most approachable fragrance to date. It felt enormously fun to wear, and frequently put a smile on my face. There is something almost innocent and playful about that fruity sweetness, though the liqueured touches do provide a more adult touch that I appreciated. That said, there were girlish aspects to some parts of Sadanne’s rose that make me wonder how men accustomed to the darker, occasionally brooding Slumberhouse fragrances will react. I think some will be completely befuddled, especially if they get the strawberry-rose version of Sadanne.



So, all of this is very positive, but would I put my money where my mouth is and buy Sadanne for myself (had I not been given a bottle)? No, I would not. However, it is for highly personal reasons. Slumberhouse prices have risen from $125 to $160. Given my particular issues with both gourmands and sweetness, $160 for 30 ml is too high for me personally, given that I wouldn’t wear Sadanne very often. I simply don’t like fruitiness (never mind the dreaded roses) to that degree, and all the liqueured wine in the world does not change Sadanne’s core essence on my skin. If Sadanne had more of the “Pink Lotus Blossom Absolute”-like note (whatever it may actually be in reality) and had a long period of dark, iridescent earthiness and funk, then I would feel differently and want the fragrance even at $160. That said, I think I might have bought Sadanne even without that aspect if the perfume were at the previous $125 price, because I really enjoy its joyous, bright cheeriness.

Photo: my own.

Photo: my own.

Since I do have a bottle, however, I can tell you that I will not be banishing Sadanne to the back of my perfume armoire with some other fragrances that I’ve been sent, nor will I fob it off onto a friend or relative to get it out of the house entirely. It is the only Slumberhouse creation that I will actually wear, albeit infrequently, because I truly mean what I’ve said here. Sadanne is a happy, fun fragrance that feels like a perfect antidote to a filthy, dark, stressful day when you just want a spark of uncomplicated, sweet, cheery brightness. She may be the girlish little sister to the dark, hulking, brooding, big brothers in the Slumberhouse line, but the smile on her face brought one to my own.

Disclosure: My bottle was provided courtesy of Josh Lobb and Slumberhouse. That did not impact this review. I do not do paid reviews, and my opinions are my own.

Cost & Availability: I think Sadanne is a concentrated parfum, but its exact concentration has not been made known. It comes in a 30 ml bottle which costs $160 or £135. Sadanne is now available directly from Slumberhouse, and the company offers overseas shipping at checkout. In the U.S.: Luckyscent carries Slumberhouse, but Sadanne is not yet on their website. Same story with Slumberhouse’s other stockists: Twisted Lily and Parfum1. You can check those links in a few days, as the perfume should arrive there at the start of September. In the meantime, Portland’s Alder & Co. already has Sadanne in stock. Outside the U.S.: In Canada, Indiescents carries Slumberhouse, and Sadanne should arrive there shortly. In the U.K., the line is available at Roullier White. They don’t have Sadanne at the time of this post, but are expecting all Slumberhouse fragrances in the new packaging to arrive in early September. For the rest of the world, Slumberhouse, Luckyscent, Twisted Lily, and Parfum1 all ship worldwide. Samples: Surrender to Chance now carries Sadanne, and prices start at $7.99 for a 1/2 ml vial. Many of the other sites linked above also sell samples.

32 thoughts on “Slumberhouse Sadanne: Days of Wine & Roses

  1. It must be all the food pictures such that when I got to the part about the syrupy strawberries opening hitting every one of your negative buttons, I initially read it as pushing all your burritos – a re-read set me straight.

    This sounds like it could even be too toothachingly sweet for me; however, you’ve intrigued me enough that I will seek this out the next time I place an order where I could get a sample of this and/or visit Twisted Lily (speaking of which, if you come over to these here parts, you MUST stop by Twisted Lily)

    P.S. Your own photos are stunning!

    • Actually, I think you’d like Sadanne quite a bit, given your love for gourmands but, also, especially given your own particular method of perfume application. The “walking through the mist” method probably prevents over-application, so you wouldn’t have to get the syrupy, macerated strawberries & Smuckers. *shudder* The other versions all have varying degrees of tangy tartness that keeps things in a nice balance without ever skewing too gourmand in nature. Twisted Lily should get samples by early Sept., so you definitely must make a point of taking Baconbiscuit for a sniff of Sadanne.

      And thank you for the lovely compliment on my photos. I generally have some lighting issues, unless I go quite abstract/macro, but I was rather pleased with the ones of the Slumberhouse bottle. I love the small detail of the name etched around the base of the silver/chrome cap.

    • I’m completely surprised, James. I had thought of you a lot and had guessed you would find all this to involve too much sweetness by your standards. I even had prepared a counter-argument of “But, James, there is tartness and tanginess, I swear! The cherries aren’t like syrupy Kirsch, but Kirschwasser and there is a difference.” See, I had it all planned out in my head. LOL. That said, I hope you don’t get the strawberry-roses (allegedly “Strawberries in Champagne” with ambergris according to that one Portland store, but much more like Smuckers syrup on my skin.) I don’t think you’d enjoy that one very much.

      • I loved Zahd and Qom Chillom. And like Pear+Olive. I can take some sweet fruit if the mix is right!

  2. I’m debating whether to blind-buy this one. I really didn’t like Zahd; there’s an underlying rasp in it that lasted literally for weeks on anything I’d touched while wearing it (and I’m so glad that was only a sample). And I’m not, generally, a fruit OR a gourmand person, although I like roses a lot (out of all the florals I dislike, which is most of them). I suppose I should decide soon, as it will probably sell out of Alder & Co shortly.

    I’m worried by it going super-sweet on you; I think we have similar skin, as I’ve noticed the same kinds of thing in scents I’ve tried that you’ve reviewed. (Ugh.) Smuckers- not my jam.

    Dittany of Crete, by the way, is quite easy to find; it’s become a very popular plant for hanging baskets. Fuzzy, round leaves, trailing, and a herbal oregano-ish smell.

    • The “rasp” in Zahd (perfect word for it, btw) was one of my main issues with the fragrance which I otherwise enjoyed quite a bit. Josh Lobb told me that he used something called Trisamber which was the responsible element, and one which was intended to give Zahd an underlying darkness. Can’t recall all the specifics of what he said Trisamber was meant to do in the fragrance, but it was a very difficult note for me due to that desiccated rasp and jangly scratchiness.

      None of that appears here with Sadanne. None. So, to that extent, you’re safe. However, the sweetness… who knows. Skin chemistry is key, but I truly believe that Sadanne becomes sweeter the more you apply. It’s as though large doses amplify the syrup to the point where it overwhelms the more subtle top and middle notes, especially the very fragile green-black earthiness.

      Do you live close enough to Alder & Co. to be able to pop in for a sniff? Because I wouldn’t recommend a blind buy for Sadanne. In all fairness, I almost NEVER recommend a blind buy in general! If you don’t live close to the store, I would just wait a week, and order a sample. It’s not as though Sadanne is a limited-edition that is going to sell out, and there are more than enough vendors which now carry Slumberhouse in the U.S. Given that you don’t generally like fruits or syrupy sweetness, it might be safest.

      As for Dittany of Crete, thank you for the tip. I’m not a plant person, as I have the opposite of a Green Thumb (more like a Black Thumb), so I wasn’t aware of its growing availability. But, still, I bet no-one else in the world but Josh Lobb has used it in a perfume. lol

  3. Ah damn! – I’m now uncontrollably insanely jealous of your gorgeous & most generous of gifts. 🙂 – I absolutely ADORE Josh’s new bottles – IMO they are gorgeous gorgeous, GORJUSSS !! / (They’re pretty much exactly how I’d wish to bottle my own ‘fumes – it’s uncanny how close they are to the ones I had designed some time back … just never found anything that came anywhere close.)

    Slumberhouse is probably THE one house I’ve been most desperate to try for well … hell, since he started out pretty much. (I feel we are possible/probable kindred spirits). But for some reason just NOT been able to get my mitts on samples. (Even after attempts at direct contact with SH, etc etc) … And ah dear Kafka, I too am an absolute cherry fanatic. I can pretty much eat them non-stop, and spend a small fortune whenever I can get my hands on some, in-season or out. So Zahd, and now Sadanne, are right at the top of my ‘must-get’ list. (actually Ore & Norne too!) … I just can’t believe why/how they’ve eluded me for this long.

    Thanx for the excellent review, (as usual!) … Oddly enough I’m actually busy sampling the 3 Papillons this very morning – (was smelling Anubis as your review came through. – How’s that for serendipitous synchronicity !?) 🙂 … In fact your review has just made me wonder about trying to blend/layer the two (Anubis & Tobacco Rose), and see what the resultant Rose/Pink-Lotus scent will smell like ???

    In fact, AM gonna go and do it this minute and see ……. 🙂

    • Oh P.S. … I’ve always liked Josh’s ‘fume names too (especially like that they’re ‘made up’). And even really liked this last one on first hearing it. However, … a few minutes later, something ruined it for me somewhat, as I have a very dear friend named Anne,but who also happens to suffer from depression. And now all I can see Sådanne as, is … tuhn, tuhn, tuhhh : SAD ANNE. … (Dammit!) 🙂

      • For some reason, I never read it as “Sad Anne.” LOL. In my head, it goes as “Sah-daN-NUHH” but I believe the Swedish ring diacretic mark over the “a” makes the letter sound like “awe.” Somewhere, I vaguely remember reading that the name was pronounced something like “Sawdinnae,” but who knows. Just don’t think of your friend, and pronounce the name weirdly. 😉

        • No worries bout the delay 🙂 Hope you’ve been enjoying the L.D. weekend !? … And yes I much prefer your way of pronouncing it. Your 2nd suggestion though is probably closest to correct, as it just struck me it sounds terribly similar to ‘Chardonnay’ – might that perhaps been a little veiled ‘wine’ reference/inspiration ?? – (Even tho’ u seemed to have picked up more on the redder tones/notes of wine, no !?)

          • Ohhhhh, “Chardonnay”…..!!! That’s brilliant, Julz! You may be onto something there. It would just be the sort of very clever but subtle reference that Josh Lobb might do. Yes, I think we should definitely pronounce the name closer to Chardonnay from now on. LOL

    • Again, please accept my apologies for the delayed reply, Julz. It’s Labour Day Weekend over here. So, onto Sadanne, I hope you will experience the cherry on your skin, especially given how much you love the fruit as well. I think you will definitely get some degree of wine and macerated fruits, with the rose squashed down underneath, but who knows precisely what fruits.

      I’m curious, did you never pop into Roullier White to sniff the prior Slumberhouse scents? I think they started carrying the line 8 months ago, if not far longer. If you’re in the vicinity after the first week in September or so, you should be able to give all the scents in the line a sniff. There are 4 from the original line, and the 5th is Sadanne. The one I think you will love quite a bit is Ore. Sova is now removed, as is Vikt.

      As for the 3 Papillons, you’ll have to let me know what you think of my beloved Anubis. And I think the idea of layering Tobacco Rose with it sounds wonderful. Let me know what that does, and how it changes Tobacco Rose. Have a lovely Sunday, Julz.

      • Ya know, after just about pulling my hair out trying to find samples any/everywhere, that even when I was successful in getting them promised in swaps etc – somehow they’v still never materialised, not a single one, heavens knows why (??) Consequently, meanwhile, half the ones I was desperate to try were discontinued. Then, biting the bullet out of sheer frustration, I tried to order Zahd (totally blind to his ‘fume style), only to be told I’d missed out by minutes. 🙁 … Then, I only just a few months ago realised that R.W. (right here – *facepalm*) were stocking them – (how I missed that, again beyond me.) However on occasions I’ve tried to access samples from them (as it’s still not that convenient from where I am) they were out of stock. And on the times when they were, I couldn’t afford $15+ per single sample of all I wished to sniff – damn! … Anywayz, I will deffo keep tryin’. 🙂

        As for Anubis, it too was my fave one, but I must say I was impressed with all 3 Papillons. (Especially since I was under the impression they were all 100% natural.) On later discovering they were actually only bout 50/50%, it made a little more sense how/why they were so impressive. But still, regardless, I think they’re all really lovely & most accomplished. …
        As for my little experiment, inspired by ‘yours truly’, I can only thank you! Seriously! – The ‘ Anubisacco Rosé ‘ as I’ve decided to coin the blend, I surprisingly like even more than each alone. I LUV IT! … It’s hard to explain exactly why, or describe to u the result. But suffice it to say that each’s best bits just shine when blended (IMO at least). The only problem is, I now want a bottle of each. … (And even more, it’s made me want to go crazy, push my luck & experiment layering all 3.) :/

        Best I can say, is … I urge u to give it a go, I think u might be pleasantly surprised too. – (Altho’, ummm, on 2nd thought, perhaps u might not be quite as enthused, as I sense the blend might’ve boosted the synthetic facet on the drydown a little.) Still, I think it’s deffo worth a sniffing anywayz… 🙂

  4. I think this would not work for me at all. The extra syrupy fruits, the Kool Aid, strawberries, the rose…I think Slumberhouse perfumes just don’t work well with my sensitivity. I sampled the whole line and gave it away after a second use. Have you tried Amouse Bouche by DSH?

    • I can’t see Sadanne being for you at all, my sweets. As for DSH’s Amouse Bouche, no, I haven’t tried it, though I recall you had a terrible time with it. I’m quickly reaching the conclusion that strawberry is a very iffy perfume note for me, as it’s always way, way too syrupy for my tastes. The worst was one of the Valentino Assuoluto fragrances which was wave upon wave of ridiculously gooey, thick Smuckers jam on my skin. No, no thank you.

  5. I thought I would post something I suddenly thought should be said, Im sure Josh Lobb knows it!
    I have been reading about his fragrances, have tried some samples, and have come across some interviews. It appears that what makes his creations so special is that he does it for himself and for the journey, and I hope that does not change. Its an element that cant imitated, and its what makes perfume an art. If Josh Lobb decides he is no longer interested in making perfume then that would be a totally reasonable decision, but I would be forced to take up perfume myself, as I feel scents like Slumberhouse’s simply must exist!

    I am so excited for this fragrance, I too recoil at roses as they are represented in most fragrances, and I also love sweet fruit and earthy notes.

    • Hi Evie. Welcome to the blog. I apologise for the delay in replying, but it’s been a busy few days in addition to being the long Labour Day weekend. I think you’re very right about the personalized nature of each Slumberhouse scent, and how Josh Lobb follow his own calling and inspirations, regardless of what the response may be. I admire that a lot, as I do his innate talent. I’d love to hear what you thought of Sadanne when you got to try it. In the meantime, have a good weekend. 🙂

  6. A member of a fragrance split group to which I belong recently posted a split of this one, and I just skipped riiiiiiight by. One reason was the name, which immediately appeared to my eye as, yes, Sad Anne. Another was that it seemed relatively expensive.

    I have yet to try a single Slumberhouse. My impression, upon reading descriptions and reviews, is that the line skews masculine (though not in my Absolutely-Not-On-My-Skin fougerey direction), so it’s interesting to see a floral, albeit a darkish one, from this house.

    This might be the one to change my mind. We’ll see – I’m adding it to my sample list.

    • The pricing change is a bit high, though understandable given how Slumberhouse isn’t funded by outside sources and Josh Lobb has said in posts on his early blog site that he uses the most expensive essences, and that he also barely breaks even. That said, for me, with my personal tastes, I wouldn’t buy Sadanne at $160, though I would have been sorely tempted (if I hadn’t received a bottle) at $125. $160 is simply too high for a fragrance that is outside of my comfort zone and which I would wear infrequently, even though I would enjoy it on those occasions. All of that is a very individual, personal assessment. For someone who loves the notes in question, Sadanne would probably be worth it.

      In your case, I think Sadanne would be one of the most approachable of the scents, along with Pear + Olive. I don’t know if Sadanne would be dark, winey fruits on your skin, or something much sweeter, but if it doesn’t skew too syrupy, you may like it. It’s going to be such a skin chemistry thing, though I think quantity will also make a difference. Has Pear + Olive never tempted you, Mals? That one doesn’t skew masculine at all, and the pear note of the beginning is simply spectacular, though it’s sadly short-lived on my skin.

      • Nnnno, no Pear + Olive. The idea makes me feel a bit queasy. I like pear notes; it’s the combination that worries me. Great in a salad, probably, but not sure I want to wear it.

        (The best Jelly Bellys are the pear ones. They even manage to replicate that weird grittiness of pear skin. I love them.)

        I *have* spent ridiculous figures on perfume before, but a blind-buy 5ml split at approximately $34.30 was too rich for my blood. I do mind it less when I know that the price is due to quality ingredients and not inane marketing (*cough* Le Labo *cough*)… it just wasn’t one of those for which I immediately said, I MUST HAVE IT!

        • $34.30 on a blind sample??! Even for 5 ml, that is…. yikes! I couldn’t do it. It’s just too much, given the fact that I don’t like a lot of things. I order small amounts, and then, if I like something, I’ll consider a bottle or a decant but my mind comes to a dead halt at anything like $34 for a sample, no matter what the size. lol. I have a definite cheap-skate side which comes out, but it’s mainly the fact that I would kick myself if I ended up with 4.5 ml left of something I hated. And you know how many fragrances I end up hating…. *grin* 😉 xoxox

        • Pear+Olive made me feel a little nauseated as well. Couldn’t wait for it to go away.

          • It’s definitely an unctuous, almost oily, super-rich gourmand. Probably a scent best suited to those who are true gourmand lovers, and I don’t think either of us qualifies for that category. 🙂

  7. I really like the Slumberhouse line intellectually, but practically I haven’t found one that really is *me*. I own Zahd, and I like it well enough, but it’s not something I’ll wear often (I haven’t even tried it since I got my bottle). This sounds like something I might like to try, but I feel quite sure I wouldn’t fall in love. I do think his fragrances tend to be interesting, if they aren’t up my alley. Pear + Olive is one of the most memorable fragrances I’ve ever tried — and while it made me queasy due to the richness, I think there’s something to be said in the fact that it stands out among hundreds of perfumes I’ve tested and I would recognize the fragrance in a second if I ever were to smell it again!

    • I understand exactly what you mean. As for Sadanne, I don’t think this one would be for you.

  8. Oooooh, I like the sound of Sadanne as I like both wine and roses but I hope it’s not too fruity for me. It sounds like powerful stuff and I’m glad it’s a happy fragrance. I am a bit disappointed it’s not on Luckyscent along with the rest of the Slumberhouse collection though – hopefully it will be soon so I can sample it. I love the depth and length of your reviews as you really delve into perfume – thanks! 🙂

    • Hi there, welcome to the blog, MyPerfumeLibrary. Your comment about Luckyscent surprised me, because I had thought Sadanne would be there by now. You’re right, it’s not. I’m really surprised at that, as well as by the fact that it’s not on Twisted Lily’s website either. I will definitely send Luckyscent a note to ask what the situation is and when they might get it in stock. It was supposed to be there in early September!

      In the meantime, though, if you’d like to sample the fragrance, you can order a vial from Surrender to Chance: Unfortunately, it’s not cheap at $7.99 for a 1/2 ml, but it’s the only place that I’ve found which carries it thus far. Twisted Lily had Sadanne as part of a sample set at one point, but they’re sold out of that, I believe. So, Surrender to Chance is your best bet for now. I hope that helps.

      • Thanks for that and your response – it does indeed help! Yeah, I think I’ll have to make a Surrender to Chance account and get it from there – other than Luckyscent I use The Perfumed Court for samples/decants but they don’t stock Sadanne either. It is indeed rather expensive though.

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  10. I bought this, like so many others, based on your enticing review. Initially I was on the fence about it as I’m not generally a fan of fruity scents. However, I have grown to love it. I am wearing it now layered with Kilian Rose Oud and I think I smell intoxicating, thank you very much.

    • LOL! I bet you smell intoxicating indeed. I just hope Sadanne’s strawberry part never shows up on you!

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