Set the jungle on fire!
Set it ablaze “with a woody liqueur rich in scorching spices, as sweet as sugar cane, and as warm as leather.” That was the express goal of famous perfumer, Olivia Giacobetti, in creating Idole, the much-loved fragrance from the ancient French perfume house of Lubin. Idole is a reinvention of a 1962 Lubin fragrance, and is supposedly their 466th creation! It would sound like a complete lie from anyone else but Lubin, a perfume house whose storied history utterly fascinates me.
Lubin was founded in 1798 by Pierre François Lubin, soon after the French Revolution. He had apprenticed under the perfumer who served Marie-Antoinette but this was a new political climate. Lubin soon won favour with Napoleon’s Imperial court and his scents were beloved by both Empress Josephine and Napoleon’s influential sister, Pauline. The royal courts of Europe soon followed suit, from the King of England to the Tsar of Russia. Once Napoleon fell, the seemingly wily, pragmatic Lubin managed to curry favour with the new royal dynasty by dedicating his fragrances to the Bourbon queen, Marie-Amélie. A very ambitious man, Lubin seemed to need more worlds to conquer and, in 1830, became the first perfume-maker to conquer the New World with perfumes that reached the banks of the Mississippi. I have no idea if that last part of biographical past was embellished a little bit but, frankly, I don’t care one whit. For a history fanatic like myself, it is all utterly fascinating.
Idole was released in 2005 as an eau de toilette. In 2012, Lubin issued an Eau de Parfum version which I’ve read is largely similar to the Eau de Toilette with only minor differences and considerably greater depth. This review is only for the Eau de Toilette version. The Lubin press release (as quoted by Libertine Perfumes) describes the fragrance as follows:
Inspired by the ancient maritime spice routes, from Madagascar and Zanzibar in East Africa to Java in the Spice Islands of Indonesia, Idole is a seductive fragrance that never overwhelms. Rum and exotic spices mingle with dark, smoky woods and leather, creating a warm and seductive fragrance.
Serge Mansau designed the stunning bottle to much international acclaim with the inspiration being the sail of the traditional wooden boat known as a felucca, and features a carved African mask on the cap — a true collector’s item[.]
If you ever have time to spare, I urge you to check the Lubin website for their gorgeous graphics, music and the detailed story associated with Idole, which is as well done for Idole as it is for all their scents. As for the bottle, it is truly spectacular. One of the most eye-catching and unusual I’ve seen.
The notes in Idole include:
rum absolute, saffron, bitter orange peel, black cumin, Doum palm, smoked ebony, sugar cane, leather and red sandalwood.
As a side note, “black cumin” is another name for Nigella Sativa and seems to be quite unrelated to the type of cumin that is used in Indian curries. According to Wikipedia, Nigella Sativa is sometimes alternatively called “Fennel Flower,” “Nutmeg Flower,” or “Roman Coriander.” Its Turkish name — “çörek otu” — literally means “bun’s herb” from its use in flavouring the çörek buns. With a sweet, bitter taste, it is frequently used in Middle Eastern pastries or in liqueurs.
Idole EDT opens on my skin with a strong note of actual, pure rum infused with sugar cane and followed immediately thereafter by loads of saffron. The latter is spicy, nutty, and sweet, but nothing like the dessert-like saffron used by Giacobetti in her famous Safran Troublant for L’Artisan Parfumeur. Idole’s top notes blend together to create a beautiful sum-total which is then joined by touches of bitter orange peel and a smoky, creamy, smooth wood note. I was extremely taken aback by just how airy the perfume is, given the richness of all those accords.
Within a few minutes, the perfume starts to shift. The saffron becomes less obvious as an individually distinct note, receding to the background to lend its indirect effect to the perfume’s rum, sugar cane notes. A very smoky, woody element that I assume is the Doum Palm muscles its way to the top. On its footsteps is a hint of some dry, dark, minutely bittered spice with an anise-like undertone which I assume is the “black cumin.” Flickering touches of something leathery dance at the periphery. The combination of elements swirls together to create a very spiced, rummy, woody, ambered feel. It is soft, almost gauzy on my skin, especially as compared to similarly boozy ambers with spice, but, despite that airy, lightweight feel, the notes seem rich, smooth and very warm. At least in the beginning….
Thirty minutes in, Idole’s woody notes become very prominent. I’ve never smelled “Doum Palm,” but anyone who has been to the tropics knows the smell of palm trees with their almost vegetal, very beige, warmly woody aroma. Here, there is something darker lurking underneath, adding an almost smoky edge to the note. It’s probably the ebony. In his admiring Four Star review of Idole in Perfumes: The A-Z Guide, the famed perfume critic, Luca Turin, wrote that the perfume had “an eerie driftwood gray note at its center,” and I think that’s as good a way as any to describe the unusual smelling note. Alongside, there is a sugar cane-infused leather accord that feels wonderfully brown and rich. Saffron lurks in the background, adding a delicate touch of nuttiness to the underlying elements but it’s never strongly pronounced. To be honest, I would have preferred much more of it, along with the bitter peel orange accord which seems to have largely vanished from sight.
Idole remains that way for the rest of its duration on my skin — spiced rum and sugar cane with strongly woody notes that are smoked and supported by tinges of leather. It doesn’t fundamentally morph in any way, though the leather nuances recede about 90 minutes in and the darker, smoky wood accord becomes somewhat stronger. The smoke is perhaps one of my favorite parts, and its light tendrils embrace the wood in a truly lovely way. The flickering touches of the anise-like black cumin are also very pretty, though the note is even more muted after an hour than it was initially. In its final moments, Idole is primarily a musky, abstract rum with hints of woodiness and a sprinkling of sugar cane. All in all, it lasted 6.75 hours on my perfume-consuming skin, always feeling incredibly light and airy. The sillage wasn’t bad, but Idole isn’t a scent with enormous projection. Like everything else about the scent, it is moderate.
I liked Idole, but I have to admit, I was surprised it wasn’t more complex or nuanced. After all that I had heard about it, I had thought it would be darker, smokier, heavier. I had thought the jungle would be on FIRE; and it wasn’t, except for a few, itsy bitsy logs. (It didn’t help that Giacobetti’s quote kept making the refrains of the old 1980s song — “The roof! The roof! The roof is on Fire! Let the *___* burn” — ring out continuously in my head.) Also, for my personal tastes, Idole was far too soft and sheer. It seems to be Giacobetti’s signature to make heavy elements feel positively airy, but I really had expected far more, something that would take me to the heart of darkness, to reference the famous Joseph Conrad book, and to full sense of an African-like Apocalypse Now.
That said, I think Idole EDT would be a perfect choice for those who don’t want to give up their Orientals during the hot, sticky summer months. It is quite a versatile ambery Oriental, given its moderation on all fronts. Plus, its dry notes make it suitable for those who don’t like their boozy scents to verge on the gourmand. I also think Idole is highly unisex. Judging by what appeared on my skin, I don’t think it’s masculine at all. On Fragrantica, a number of people disagree, but I think it’s a highly subjective matter that all depends on your personal tastes. If you like clean, fresh, fruity, floral or dessert scents, then Yes, Idole may seem masculine with its smoked woody notes and leather nuances. If you’re used to Orientals, then, No.
As a whole, Idole is a much-loved fragrance. Though there is a firm split on the issue of sillage and longevity, most people on Fragrantica either admire or flat-out adore the fragrance itself. Perhaps the most useful review comes from The Non-Blonde who, like me, wanted to love Idole EDT, but who struggled with its development on her skin and with its overall lack of depth. She ended up being blown away instead by the new Idole Eau de Parfum which is clearly something I have to seek out post-haste:
I first met (the modern) Idole de Lubin shortly after it came out in 2005. It was stunning. Completely and utterly breathtaking with its boozy opening and intense dark spicy heart. I loved it and tried for a long time to make it work, but there was a hollowness halfway through Idole EDT that make it fade and die on my skin much too quickly. It was like a great romance that didn’t survive the hardships of reality, but made me wistful whenever I looked back.
Six years later we meet again. Idole EDP is a changed perfume. Stronger, fuller and more reliable. I smell less cumin and more leather, the rum is sweeter and the incense smokier. It’s all I ever wanted Idole to be, and here it is- more brooding, taller but familiar. I want to bury my face in its warmth, wrap it over my shoulder and breath the dark woody aroma.
In asking her to create Idole EDP, Lubin allowed perfumer Olivia Giacobetti to make things right, to let Idole become what it was meant to be. It’s one of the best incense perfumes around, romantic and mysterious. On Luckyscent’s masculine-feminine spectrum they placed it slightly to the manly side and I agree, sort of. The rum-cumin-smokes wood ensures that Idole will appeal to men and smell magnificent on them, but women who have a thing for the dark side and wear perfumes such as Black Cashmere, Safran Troublant, Passage d’Enfer or Tea For Two will find a lot to love in it (the last three are also by Giacobetti).
Out of all the big bloggers out there, I find the Non-Blonde is the one whose views and experiences are always the closest to my own. We rarely seem to diverge in any serious respect. In contrast, I almost always differ widely in opinion, skin experiences, and detected notes from Bois de Jasmin — to the point that I often wonder if we’re smelling the same fragrance. I bring that up only because Bois de Jasmin swooned for Idole Eau de Toilette, writing about it as if it were one of the darkest, smokiest, most richly spiced, heavy fragrances she’d smelled in a while:
The warmth of spices is layered over the vibrant richness of woods, making Idole de Lubin one of the most voluptuous and darkest fragrances composed by Olivia Giacobetti. It does not evoke the images of transparency and hazy glow. Instead, the fragrance burns with the passionate intensity of sweet spices. A hot flame of clove accented by pepper slowly spills into the heart of the composition where it dies down in the smooth folds of orange sweetened leather. The base is filled with the caramel redolent vapors of rum, their warmth imbuing the darkness of woods with appealing sweetness. Against the backdrop of dark rosy sandalwood, a whisper of incense smoke lends an ethereal touch.
While the composition does not have a soft translucence characteristic of Olivia Giacobetti’s creations, her take on an oriental theme is interesting in terms of its ability to give airiness to the dark and heavy wood notes and to maintain outstanding tenacity. Like gold embroidery on silk, Idole de Lubin is a beautiful compromise between opulent richness and refined softness.
Obviously, perceptions of darkness, spice, and orientalism are a very relative thing. I do think that Idole is a pretty fragrance, but I didn’t find it even a tenth as complex, nuanced or “voluptuous” as what she experienced. (And I certainly didn’t detect any cloves or sandalwood.) Instead, I agree with The Non-Blonde’s impressions of ultimate hollowness, general softness, and insufficient depth or body. Even Now Smell This felt the same way, writing:
Olivia Giacobetti… fragrances make a virtue of simplicity and rarely raise their voice above a whisper, and Idole is no exception. It starts with peppery spices in a cloud of rum; the orange peel and saffron shine through beautifully as the alcohol burns off. The spice notes linger on into the dry down, lending an exotic touch to the smoky charred woods and leather. After an hour or so, it is rather mild and soft, just a whisper of leather and woods, no more than lightly sweet, with a subtle, close to the skin presence.
Clearly, whether it’s on Fragrantica or between bloggers, there is a huge split on the issue of Idole’s richness. Since perfume is so subjective — especially in areas pertaining to richness, heaviness, spiciness, and depth — then, if you’re tempted by the fragrance, I would strongly recommend that you try both the Eau de Toilette and the fuller, seemingly more complex Eau de Parfum version before buying. Or, if you know you prefer heavier, richer perfumes, just opt right away for a sniff of the Eau de Parfum instead. The prices for both are excellent, especially given the size of the bottles and the fact that such enormously loved niche perfumes (in stunningly gorgeous, unusual bottles) are rarely so reasonable: the EDT comes in a 2.5 oz/75 ml bottle that retails for $120 or €95, while the Eau de Parfum comes in a large 3.4 oz/100 ml bottle that costs $160 or €120. The relatively low cost of the fragrance, especially in Eau de Toilette form, may be one reason why many of the retailers that I have linked to below list the Eau de Toilette as one of their best sellers. In fact, it is completely sold out on Luckyscent at the moment.
Whichever version you opt for, I think Oriental lovers should definitely try Idole. If you’re lucky, it will take you to the heart of Africa and set the jungle on FIRE!
Ooh, I love the bottle! And actually this sounds pretty appealing (rum notwithstanding, though I’m willing to tolerate it). I’ll have to give this one a try one of these days! Thanks for the lovely review!
I badly want the EDT bottle, but filled with the Eau de Parfum version!! The EDT bottle is one of the coolest things I’ve seen in a while.
I am right there with you on the bottles and intensity…I want that EDT bottle filled with the deeper juice. However, being an oriental fan, I wonder if I should try the EDT in somewhat reasonable summer days. 98 and 200% humidity in DC is not the best day for my favorite perfumes.
Isn’t it amazing how differently two people can perceive the same fragrance? Following Ari’s hunt for Idole via twitter (are you on?), I went out last night and literally doused myself in the EdP. Oh sad regret! First I got bitter orange and then I got a metric ton of saffron. Now I like saffron a lot, but my skin just amplified this to an uncomfortable degree. I got none of the smoky woods, or the rum, or the leather, or the sugar cane. I just ended up with some really sour smelling woods and on the way home, the guy next to me on the subway turned in my direction, sniffed, and got up and moved away from me! Can you believe it? I just wish I smelled how everyone else does. Maybe it was something I ate . . .
Oh dear, that does sound like a terrible experience. And, yet, now I’m more curious than ever to try the EdP version! As for Ari, I’m afraid I don’t know who that is. And no, my dear, I don’t do Twitter. Can you imagine someone like *me* managing with a 140 character limit???! 😉 😛 Back to Idole, do you think the EdT would work better for you? Or have you been put off trying the whole thing now?
Idole EdP was certainly not what I was expecting at all! I have a sample of Idole EdT that I should pull out and try. Even if it’s a scrubber, it is only just perfume and a repeated swipes of make-up remover will generally get the job done 😉
Actually, I have not really been that interested in testing Lubin that much following the ungracious comments made on Olfactoria’s blog by the owner. Did you read those? They were so unkind!
And Ari writes over at thescentsofself.com, which I would totally recommend! She is funny, witty, and generous in spirit. All good qualities that you share too, dear Kafka!
I read his comments. It was wildly inappropriate. As for the blog recommendation, thank you. I have signed up to follow it and to receive emails. 🙂 With regard to Idole EDT, let me know if you try it and if it works for you. I’m so curious now, especially given just how bad your experience was with the EDP. I wonder how my skin would deal with it. Hm. BTW, totally OT, the other day, I could not stop eating those nougats you made and sent me! I had to finally hide them away! Thank you for the delicious temptation — I think. 😉
I will pull out my sample of the EdT, which I saw when I was digging around for Kenzo Jungle L’Éléphant yesterday. Will totally let you know!
Glad you are enjoying the nougats too! I’m not the biggest fan of her cooking, but in one of Nigella’s cookbooks she talked about how she counts calories: fruits and vegetables don’t count (they essentially have no calories), fish doesn’t count, olive oil doesn’t count, staples like flour, sugar, and eggs don’t count. So basically the only things that count are butter and pure lard.
In that case, those nougats are diet food 🙂
I get ‘cocktail’ and while I wouldn’t wear it it is an interesting scent.
I ran to my desk, popped open the “woody spicy” box and spayed a bunch of the EDT on my right hand, and the EDP on my left, then read this review. Once again, I marvel at your minute by minute descriptions. Absolutely spot on. I do like the Perfume strength better, but it lacks the warmth I would expect with all the spices and wood. I LOVE the opening of rum and sugar cane. Overall I think there is just too much treble, not enough bass, for my personal taste. It is a really interesting composition. Reminded me of a couple of the Frapin scents. I never thought about considering it a hot weather Oriental. I will try it and then brave the heat, and see what I think. Thanks for your witty, entertaining, and (IMO) very accurate review, Kafka!
Thank you for the huge compliment, Tora! And I’m enormously grateful for your comparison of the EDT -vs- the EDP. Damn, how disappointing that the EDP lacks the warmth of the EDT to go with the spices and wood. *sigh* I sounds like Goldilocks’ Porridge: Too Thin, Too Thick — but nothing that is the perfect in-between. Now I’m curious to see if the summer heat would help the EDP in bringing out the warm bits. Hmm…. I’m definitely going to have to get a sample. BTW, the musical reference of treble and bass made me smile. 🙂
I love this scent (not that I own it, but I have a decant) and I thought your review was spot-on, Kafka. I think you might get more saffron than I do, and I get more of the orange peel, but other than that, your experience pretty much matches my own. I agree that it’s quite airy, and while I generally don’t fall for airy perfumes, I think that Giacobetti’s diaphanous treatment of spice is one of the reasons I found it appealing. I used to find most spice-heavy perfumes overwhelming – so this very diaphanous treatment seemed, not only unique, but suited my tastes better. However, now those tastes are changing again: last year I fell in love with Parfumerie Generale’s very thick and spicy perfume, Une Crime Exotique, which has become a perfume I crave often. So, hmm, maybe it’s time to try Idole in the edp! (Not to mention vintage Opium.) 😉
p.s. I know you don’t get a lot of saffron from this one, but still more than me, as I could barely detect it.
I loved reading about your experiences and how the EDT manifested itself on your skin. Shame about the saffron not being as apparent. I’m also fascinated by the changes in your perfume taste over time. I think most (normal) people’s tastes evolve over time but, somehow, I still hate or love all the same things I ever did. LOL. (I doubt I will ever, ever like aldehydes, for example. Not a chance. Ever!) Now I’m curious about PG’s Une Crime Exotique!!! Love the name and the words “very thick and spicy” made me sit up. I’ve jotted it down on my list of things to order samples of next time there is a Surrender to Chance sale. Thank you!!
Lubin, I just found a new brand, an ancient brand like the ones I love. Being the history lover that I am I love all things old and learning about a brand that has been around for centuries always makes me happy. It is one of the main reasons why I love Guerlain, it´s antiquity is what makes me love their make up and fragrance apart from the great quality the brand has (even though Chanel and Ysl work better for me in the makeup department but well…). I love learning about old brands that have a history and I just now found a new French house to look forward to learning more of, also it seems like the greatest older perfume and makeup houses were founded at more or less the same time, since Pierre Francois Pascal Guerlain also established his house around 1828 I think, and also made a perfume for the wife of Napoleon, Eau Imperiale though I don´t know if this is still made and sold, but in any case it´s not available in my country 🙁 . This Lubin perfume sounds like something I would love, since I have been long in love with D&G The One, and if this is any similar I would sure love it.
Vicky! So, so good to see you, my dear!! 😀 I see you share my passion for history, so you should definitely look up Santa Maria Novella, the Italian brand that is making perfumes (along with every conceivable product from soaps to foot creams and deoderant) using the same recipes from the 1200s!! Over 800 years old, Santa Maria Novella is a former part of an order of Dominican friars in Florence and they made the very first eau de cologne ever and guess who it was for? A young, 14 yr old Catherine de Medici upon her marriage to the King of France. The perfume I reviewed is an eau de cologne called Ambra and I don’t think it would be your type, but you can easily find the review (which is as much about the history of Santa Maria Novella as it is about the fragrance). Just go to the search button or look up Santa Maria Novella. I think you’d find it to very cool, especially the product list and the photo of the chapel in which the company is still housed. 🙂
As for Guerlain, I agree with you on its history. And Eau Imperiale is still made! 🙂 It’s a citrus aromatic, much like the other fragrance you liked from Histoires de Parfums, except not vanilla-based at its heart. As for this Idole, it’s not similar to D&G’s The One from what I remember of the Women’s version. (I have the Men’s.) This doesn’t have the sandalwood of the D&G; it has tons of rum and sugar cane, is much darker, smokier and woodier. “The One” is much lighter, more vanilla, and sweeter but in a totally different way. It’s also not woody or smoky.
Now I have another reason to see Italy again 😀 , it has been 12 years already since I last was in La bella Italia, I was an eleven year old child back then and I was very impressed by the culture, food and people. Last time I was in Paris was three years ago so I think Italy has to take priority over France this time 🙂 , I remember loving Florence, even though my absolute favorite has always been Venice. I searched your review on the perfume from this house and also searched the net and found the brands website. Now I think this is an obligatory visit for me, since they have perfumes, accessories, candles and even food, chocolates 😛 . Sadly they don´t seem to have makeup but I guess that’s good for the wallet. A nice fragrance, maybe a pretty accessory or chocolate from this brand seem to be in my future, considering the huge history lover I am 🙂 .
LOL! Between all the various things they offer, I’m sure you’ll find something to tempt the wallet. They seem like a fabulous line and I adore that they don’t test on animals either. As for Italy, I hope you get the chance to go back there soon. Such a mesmerizing, beautiful country. 🙂
Call me irrelevant but I was puzzled by your reference to “the roof is on fire” as an 80’s song. Did my research and you are right. Original is from 1984 by Rock Master Scott And The Dynamic Three and it spawned two more recent songs. The one with the same title (and more widely known) by the Bloodhound Gang and also (SURPRISE!) “Hey boy, hey girl” by the Chemical Brothers! The things one can find from reading perfume blogs!
Not irrelevant, but an appreciator of music, Amer. 🙂 Yes, the original song was very big in the ’80s. The famous chorus ended up being twisted to apply to all sorts of things by rambunctious, irreverent and rebellious teenagers. I speak from personal experience. 😉
Great review! When it comes to Lubin, I don’t really love this perfume house. Idole is their most famoust and most monumental perfume they created and Galaad, Akkad and Korrigan were definitely far behind it. Since Idole was launched, Lubin didn’t introduce anything that would be better than that. I like EdT better than EdP of Idole.
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