There should be some sort of law against false misrepresentation with perfume names. At the very least, there should be some sort of penalty box where perfumes are sent to be egged when they not only fail to smell of the very thing with which they are titled, but when their primary aroma is something not even mentioned on the bloody list! As you can tell, I’m feeling rather irascible, and the reason is Comme des Garcons‘ endlessly wordy, misleadingly named scent, Comme des Garcons Series Luxe: Patchouli. (Yes, that last bit seems to be the full, official name of the fragrance, which is why I will just refer to it as “Luxe Patchouli” or “Patchouli Luxe” from here on out.)
Patchouli Luxe was created by Antoine Maisondieu, and is an eau de parfum that was released in 2007. (There is also an eau de toilette version.) The notes as compiled from Fragrantica and Luckyscent include:
White pepper, fenugreek, bearberry, lovage, oak extract, opoponax [sweet myrrh], patchouli, cedar, vanilla, sandalwood, vetiver.
Luxe Patchouli opens on my skin with a burst of white pepper quickly followed by smoked, slightly singed cedar, a boozy, vanilla-infused Bourbon, and more white pepper. There are hints of dried greens, dried grass, dried herbs, and smoked vetiver. On their heels is black pepper, fenugreek, dill pickle, and something not included on any ingredient lists that I could see: immortelle. Subtle flecks of a leathery darkness pop in and out of the beautiful pepper and herbal top notes. It’s like a vista of dry yellow and green fields dotted with foraging sheep. The field lies at the edge of a dark cedar and vetiver forest that is smoking, so someone decided to douse the sparks and singed tinder with sprinkles of vanillic Bourbon.
Less than five minutes in, the immortelle or Helichrysum suddenly springs into action, followed quickly by the fenugreek and a faint touch of mildewed woods. For me, Luxe Patchouli should really be called Luxe Immortelle since the flower seems to have been used by the bucketfuls. For a large part of the perfume’s development, the aroma reflects immortelle’s drier characteristics: a herbal floralacy that smells like dried chamomile, dandelions flowers, and yellow curry powder.
Soon, even more white pepper arrives on the scene, followed by sweet myrrh’s nutty warm smoke, and dry cedar. The pepper is absolutely lovely, as it smells exactly like the really expensive Muntok Indonesian kind you use in cream-based dishes. (Julia Child hated the use of black pepper in white sauces.) The white version isn’t something I’ve encountered frequently in perfumery, so I’m a big fan, though it vanishes in less than 10 minutes on my skin.
The immortelle’s curry powder characteristic is amplified by the fenugreek, which smells equally dried and herbal. Fenugreek is not something that a lot of people are familiar with, even in cooking, but I used to love using it and have a big bottle in my pantry. It has an aroma that is like concentrated dill mixed with parsley and dried leeks. It is often used to pickle vegetables in Indian food or is blended in South East Asian curries, while in Persian food it is responsible for one of the country’s most important dishes, a herbal, non-curried stew called Ghormeh Sabzi. For me, the aroma of the fenugreek combined with the immortelle in Luxe Patchouli actually brings the whole thing closer to another Middle Eastern dish called Baghali Polo (or sometimes, Sabzi Polo). (There is a recipe for Baghali Polo with lovely photos at Cooking Minette.)
In short, I smell of food and dried herbal flowers, with a touch of pickled dill, but there is nary a whiff of patchouli to be found anywhere. Actually, I am reminded distinctly of Serge Lutens‘ Santal de Mysore, which I’m pretty sure also contains a heaping amount of fenugreek and which made me think of the same dish. Luxe Patchouli is not as foodie, sweet, curried, or hotly buttered as the Lutens. It is a much more peppered, dry, woody take on the Lutens’ fenugreek Baghali Polo, but they definitely feel like cousins to me. I wasn’t a fan of the Lutens, and I’m not a fan of CDG’s bouquet either, though I do liked the singed cedar in the background.
CDG Luxe Patchouli simply does not change on my skin. Starting around 15 minutes into its development until its very end, it is primarily an immortelle and fenugreek perfume. There are subtle variations in characteristics of the immortelle, as well as in the prominence of the fenugreek, or the quantity of smoked, dry woods in the background, but, by and large, the fragrance is primarily some form of immortelle on my skin.
Patchouli? Not as I know it. Not green, medicinal patchouli, not conventional brown, spicy-sweet patchouli, or even the ghastly modern, fruited purple kind. Patchouli — luxe or otherwise — is simply not a factor in a fragrance whose name pays homage to that one, solitary note. I don’t understand any of it. While I could blame my skin for acting up, I’m not alone in finding Luxe Patchouli to be predominantly an immortelle scent. We will get to that shortly, since I should first give you the rest of the perfume’s development.
Luxe Patchouli has some unusual things going on with the sillage. Regardless of quantity, the fragrance hovers right on the skin within 45 minutes. At a larger dose, there are little tendrils that hover in the air around me, and the immortelle is noticeable from afar. As a whole, Luxe Patchouli feels very soft, very quickly. It’s a tiny, pillowy cloud of immortelle’s dryness, whether it is the dandelion and chamomile floral element, the dryness of its green stalks, or its faintly curry-like whiff. The whole thing is strongly infused with the fenugreek’s Middle Eastern dill, parsley, and leek herbal aromas, and the whole thing together combines to create a green, dry, herbal curry bouquet. The cedar lurks at the edges giving off singed smoke, but the vetiver, vanilla Bourbon, and white pepper have essentially vanished.
The immortelle does change, however. At the end of the first hour, it turns spicy and even more curried, instead of merely just dry, floral, or sweet. About 2.25 hours in, Luxe Patchouli is a mere skin scent with immortelle. There are indistinct, tiny hints of abstract, dry woodiness and smokiness at the edges, but they are very muted. Meanwhile, the fenugreek has started to retreat to the sidelines where it will remain for a few more hours. At the start of the 5th hour, Luxe Patchouli turns more sweet, as the immortelle’s maple syrup side emerges. There is some sort of quasi “sandalwood”-like note in the base that doesn’t feel like sandalwood, per se, but a generic creamy woodiness that is lightly spiced and sweet.
As a whole, the sweet elements are not enormous or extreme in Luxe Patchouli. They fade away about 6.75 hours in, along with any remaining traces of the fenugreek and curry, leaving a scent that is merely dry, dusty, herbal, floral immortelle. There is a hint of maple syrup, and the whole thing lies nestled in a cocoon of abstract woodiness that can just vaguely be made out as smoked cedar. By the start of the 8th hour, Luxe Patchouli is a smear of immortelle, abstract woods, and vanilla. In its final moments, a few minutes after the start of the 10th hour, it dies away as a haze of woody, dry sweetness. Not a whisper of patchouli showed up in any shape, size, or form on my skin, a fact I would find much less irritating if the whole scent were not intended to be “Luxe: Patchouli.”
As noted at the start, this review is for the eau de parfum version of Luxe Patchouli. I don’t have a sample of the eau de toilette that seems more commonly available, but, from what I gather, the two scents are alike in terms of how they smell. According to a Basenotes thread comparing the two, the differences are largely of depth and sweetness, with many finding the EDT to be drier, thinner, less original, and with less richness. Many called the EDT the “diet version.” A number of people who hate patchouli found Luxe Patchouli to be perfect for their tastes. I can’t figure out if that means they actually detected patchouli on their skins, if they don’t know what the real, brown, true patchouli smells like, or if they love the perfume because they didn’t detect it at all. I assume it was the latter, as a number of people who do describe themselves as patchouli fans found the EDT to leave them a little cold. One poster, “Hedonist222” wrote:
Frankly I don’t get much patchouli from it.
A lot of immortelle.
In fact, there are numerous Basenotes’ threads on the subject of the nonexistent patchouli. Let’s take just one, entitled “Comme des Garcons Luxe Patchouli – Where’s the patchouli?” A few of the responses:
- All I get in this is what to me smells like angelica root. Angelica root is very powerful and tends to dominate anything it’s added to. It also smells like there is an attempt at synthetic irones as well (I have smelled some quality synthetic orris fragrance oils, and the note I get here is a close match).
- I loved it, but not enough to purchase a FB. It’s basically immortelle and not much else. It’s very rich and dense; almost syrupy and SL-like. It’s not that complex and I would’ve bought it…say have it been 150.
- I tried this at the CdG shop here and it was a memorable experience because it was the only time I have felt compelled to find somewhere nearby to wash off all traces of a scent I have sampled as quickly as possible. If this is immortelle in the raw then I can live without it.
In the official Basenotes thread for the scent, a lot of people love Luxe Patchouli for all its non-patchouli characteristics. For one, it was a much better version than Annick Goutal‘s immortelle bomb, Sables. For another, Patchouli Luxe was all about the sweet myrrh. A third loved the angelica and fenugreek combination with the immortelle. A fourth chap, “Darvant,” wrote:
This is complex. A rich, spicy, sugary, very dark patchouli that is since the beginning smoky (sweet smoke) and with a sheer tarry and balsamic note of licorice in a link with something like anise or angelica (may be the bearberry) all surrounded by resins of oak, myrrh and vanilla. The aromatic blend ends smokey because of the influence of burnt woods from the top to the bottom but is aromatic and surprisingly green and earthy because of the influence of vetiver, bearberry and feengreek. The interaction of pepper, smoke, patchouli and tarry-aromatics (immortelle, bearberry, feengreek?) grounds a very dark appalling structure flanked by greens, hints of camphor and finally civilized and smoothed by a huge amount of balsams and resins. The fragrance itself is a tangle, the mildness is made of balsams and woods (sandalwood and cedarwood), the patchouli is well flavoured and hidden in the middle of a black bitter-sweet shadow that is aromatic and earthy, tarry and mellow at once. All the elements are in a perfect balance. Ubermodern, futuristic fragrance with a huge amount of texture in my opinion, really searched and luxurious, perfect for clubbing in all the cozy, velvety, dark-violet club of the down town.
My experience was hardly as complex or as interesting. Whatever the momentary nuances of Patchouli Luxe’s opening minutes, it quickly devolved to nothing more than fenugreek dill, dill pickle, dried herbal flowers, and various manifestations of immortelle with a hint of singed cedar. If Darvant experienced all that far beyond the first 15 minutes, then I’m deeply envious. For myself and so many others, however, Luxe Patchouli was curried immortelle and little else.
Some bloggers seemed to have enjoyed Luxe Patchouli quite a bit, regardless of its quirks. For Lee at the Perfume Posse, the fragrance began as a refined patchouli, before the “second stage took me into an East Asian grocery[,]” and then ended as a “beautiful, truly dreamy immortelle kick.” For Nathan Branch (who has some truly exceptional photos of the bottle and box),
CdG Luxe Patchouli is warm, richly layered and exceptionally polished from front to finish. [¶] Whereas Le Labo’s terrific Patchouli 24 has a charred-wood quality that steers it in a darker, more unexpected direction, CdG Luxe Patchouli is nothing if not a smooth operator all the way through, definitely in the spotlight yet respectfully sharing the stage with a lush procession of incense, bourbon, dry wood, a touch of leather and a dash of salt.
I’ve spent so much time on other people’s experiences to give you an idea of the positive aspects of the fragrance if you’re looking for a dry, sometimes syrupy sweet, herbal, woody scent. I’m also trying to underscore as much as possible that you will be disappointed if you’re looking for a conventional, true, dark, brown patchouli with all its traditional characteristics. This isn’t it. This is indeed an “East Asian grocery” store, followed by immortelle.
Luxe Patchouli is a nice fragrance for what it is, though greatly over-priced at $290 for a mere 45 ml. It is refined and seamless; quite unisex; and its weak sillage (but good longevity) would make it appropriate for a conservative office environment. In my opinion, however, it is not a patchouli scent by any stretch of the imagination. If there were truth in advertising requirements about perfume names, someone at Comme des Garcons’ perfume or marketing department should get their knuckles rapped.
Oh my! This reminds of the surprise I got when I tried Lutens’ Chene and actually expected to get oak, but got, you guessed it, immortelle instead. Perfumes and their names create a strange, discordant world sometimes.
Still, I would almost like to smell it to catch a whiff of those Dandelion flowers!
Heh, that’s like Serge Lutens’ Cèdre which is primarily tuberose! But this one…. this one makes me far grumpier for some reason. Perhaps because I really want to find a good patchouli scent, dammit! Plus, I really don’t like a lot of fenugreek in my perfume. I’m not so keen on immortelle to begin with, but adding fenugreek really compounds the problem tenfold.
If I had enough left of my CDG sample, I’d send it to you. I’m afraid I don’t. I would be interested to see how your skin would manifest the syrupy issue that some people have struggled with. I have to say, I don’t think you’d enjoy the sweetness of this or its singular focus.
I agree with you on the fenugreek. I think Epic Woman has some in it and I like it there, but no overdose please. I don’t even particularly enjoy it in food really…
I keep meaning to ask you what you think of vintage Tabu as a patchouli perfume…. I know not everyone likes that one by a long stretch, but it does have a lot of patchouli!
I’ve never tried vintage Tabu that I can remember. I know, shameful! lol
Non niche suggestion: givenchy gentleman. I hate patchouli and that was right up my hate alley. Patchouli and leather all the way.
LOL @ “hate alley.” 😀 Givenchy fragrances are usually too thin and cologne-like for my tastes, but this one sounds good. I know it’s different than Monsieur Givenchy, for which I have a soft spot, but do you know if they are alike in lightness and thinness? Either way, I’ll keep an eye out for it. Patchouli and leather sounds just up my alley. 😉 lol
The contrast of this review and the previous one back-to-back is sort of funny. From the most patchouli-like patchouli to patchouli, quite literally, in name only! This sounds perhaps interesting, although steep in price and I can’t help but think I’d always be annoyed by the name if it indeed doesn’t smell like patchouli. I like fenugreek, but it’s definitely one of those a-little-goes-a-long-way ingredients!
I’m definitely starting to feel a little like Goldilocks with the porridge and the beds…. lol. As for Fenugreek, it is quite distinct and noticeable here, though the scent isn’t foodie in the way of Serge Lutens’ Santal de Mysore. The immortelle, however, dominates everything from start to finish. Honestly, I don’t think you’d fall in love with this, though you may find it interesting at first.
Given how boring some of the stuff I’ve tried in recent memory has been, maybe I need to be satisfied with interesting! LOL. Actually, I have to say I had sort of written off Amouage (not totally, I guess, but I hadn’t fallen in love) but with each wear of the samples I’ve fallen a little more in love. I always thought twice was enough to test something, but I’m finding I’m perhaps more fickle than I thought. Hard to believe, I know!
Which Amouages have finally captured your attention, or started to sway you?
Jubilation XXV, Reflection, Lyric… and I believe there was one more that really stood out, but now I can’t remember which. Reflection is perhaps my favorite though, at least so far. Although I just finished off my second sample of Jubilation, so maybe I like it more than I lead on. I think my next StC order will probably need to be the women’s stuff so I can try that too!
When I saw that you were reviewing a CDG patchouli I was not really interested because I’m not really a CDG fan. However, after going through an seeing that this smells like immortelle mixed with dill and other funky herbs, I’m all for a go! I have to see what an “east Asian grocery store” smells like 🙂
Are you a huge immortelle fan? I had no idea! 🙂 If so, then you may love this. I hear that immortelle fans find it to be even better than Annick Goutal’s Sables. 🙂
Good to know!
Like you, I was not pleased with SL’s Santal de Mysore. Being the sandalwood fanatic I am, I was expecting orgasmic tears running down my cheeks and Bernini’s St. Teresa passion in my eyes but alas! I just couldnt bear it. If Luxe Patchoili is SM’s cousin, however indirect, I must stay away from. I guess I am not trying this one.
Heh, was it the fenugreek, the overall foodie aspect, the hotly buttered saffron, the absence of real Mysore sandalwood, or something else? As for this one, given your feelings about the SL, I would definitely advise you to stay away.
This perfume makes me sick to my stomach.
ROFL. I love you and your bluntness. You never fail to make me smile. No, I can’t see you reveling in all the fenugreek. Heh.
Sorry for my lack of enterprise and enthusiasm, but I will give this one a miss. The advantage to NOT being a perfume blogger is that I don’t have to work from personal experience of a scent, and am free to say ” I will almost certainly hate this one, and therefore will not bother.” Fenugreek? Dill? On my body? Thanks for sparing me the experience.
Hahaha, it’s so funny to read your comment immediately on the heels of Neil’s “This perfume makes me sick to my stomach.” I think it’s definitely one for those who love immortelle with a more… erm… exotic…. facet. Fenugreek is not something I could see you tolerating very well, my dear.
I wish I still had my bottle of this which I bought when it first came out. I had to give it away though as I was allergic to it. I do like to try whatever perfume you are reviewing so I can follow the progression of notes that crop up, and identify what I am smelling. This is one of the reasons I love your blog, I learn so much, I feel like I am in an advanced classroom for perfume analysis, when I read and sniff at the same time. What you call Imortelle, I know as Helichrysum, which is very anti inflammatory, analgesic, and regenerative. It is so great for wounds of all kind and great for scar repair. Emotionally it exudes gentleness, caring, warmth and a meditative aspect. But, honestly, I recoil a bit at the smell of the pure oil. I do not remember my CDG Patchouli smelling of Helichrysum, I do remember thinking it was a very unique perfume.
I’m happy to learn that you’re enjoying it. You don’t comment often, and I know my stuff is too long for you to read, so it’s nice to hear that you like the reviews.
Just curious, Kafka… Have you ever tried Fresh “Pure Patchouli”? I bought it over 10 yrs ago, back when Fresh was putting out their “Index” series. It does have a nice, smoky accord, the patch seems slightly dry, ever so sweet,, and on the rare occasions I use it, it leaves a beautiful, lingering trace in my closet still noticeable the next day.
No, I’m afraid I haven’t. I don’t think I’ve tried any fragrances from Fresh that I recall.
Dearest K
I understand the frustration… especially when the name is (ultimately) a single word descriptive.
That said (and notwithstanding Ginza’s nausea) I must confess to being a little intrigued by this. I’m not averse to fenugreek and immortelle, well, it’s not my favourite note, but the handling here does seem eccentric to say the least.
One to try if it crosses my path rather than to cross the road for I feel.
Yours ever
The Perfumed Dandy
“Eccentric” is a really good way to sum up the fragrance’s quirky twist. It certainly zigs when you expect a zag. I would be curious to see if the amount of fenugreek and immortelle would be too much for you, so if you ever try it, do let me know what you think. I suspect that the fragrance would be too sweet, more than too much immortelle for your tastes.
Ha! If I had finished reading this BEFORE the review on Dior Patchouli Imperial, I probably would not have had the temerity to mention wearing CdG Monocle Sugi :-). Anyway, this sounds meh and I will happily skip it.
Hahaha, I’m sure your Monocle Sugi is lovely on you. At the very least, I’m certain you don’t smell of fenugreek, a Middle Easterner’s dinner, or a South East Asian grocery store…. 😉 😛