LM Parfums Ambre Muscadin

Ambre MuscadinAmbre Muscadin is an unusual fragrance for an amber. It starts off as the dryest, smoked woody fragrance with sharp animalic notes, before ending up as something quite different. Its progression actually reminds me of a horse race where the three dark, woody, smoky, animalic sprinters burst right out of the gate to lead the pack before, suddenly, everything changes. A small, golden, amber gelding and a powerful, creamy, vanilla stallion both surge ahead to tie, neck and neck, with the front-runners, before gradually overtaking them in a long haul. Midway during the race, like Secretariat or Barbaro in days gone by, the mighty vanilla stallion sweeps them all with a flourish.

Ambre Muscadin is a fragrance from LM Parfums, a French niche house founded by Laurent Mazzone. I’ve met Mr. Mazzone and he is a rather adorable man, with a passion for very classic, but bold, perfumery done with a modern twist. That philosophy is certainly visible in Ambre Muscadin, an eau de parfum (with 15% perfume oil concentration) that was released in 2011. It is unclear who was the nose who collaborated with Mr. Mazzone on the fragrance. Rumour has it that it was the late Mona di Orio, with whom I know Mr. Mazzone was quite close.

Atlas cedar. Source: sodahead.com

Atlas cedar. Source: sodahead.com

LM Parfums describes Ambre Muscadin as follows:

The opulence of the atlas cedar adorned with mystery.
A bold violet, a charmer vetyver rise up its natural elegance.
White honey, lascivious vanilla, highlights its facets flesh and velvety. Then Amber reveals its heart of a sensuous mosaic cryptic, balsamic radiates the charms of the Orient …

Top Notes: Mount Atlas cedar, vetiver java, Violet
Heart Notes: Madagascar vanilla absolute, white honey
Base Notes: Siam benzoin, amber, musk

Ambre Muscadin opens on my skin with a ferocious blast of cedar, then vetiver. The notes are all coated with the faintest sliver of vanilla, white honey, amber and a very sharp musk that veers between feeling wholly animalic and, initially, a wee bit synthetic. I must confess, I’m not a particular fan of how Ambre Muscadin begins on me, because it consistently reminds me of some murky cedar swamp, infused with mossy, peaty, smoked vetiver. Once in a while, I think of the cedar chips underlying a hamster’s cage, only this cage is also filled with vetiver, and the whole thing lies under a dome of sharp smokiness, intense dryness, and the feral, urinous whiff of a musky animal. Ambre Muscadin is a very masculine amber on my skin in these opening moments, very much a woody fragrance first and foremost, then animalic, with amber and honeyed vanilla coming in absolutely last on the list.

"Young Atlantic White Cedar Swamp" by Jason Howell. http://www.motivepicture.com/?attachment_id=138

“Young Atlantic White Cedar Swamp” by Jason Howell. http://www.motivepicture.com/?attachment_id=138

Five minutes in, Ambre Muscadin slowly begins to shift. The vetiver becomes as prominent as the cedar, and it smells just like the note in really expensive, single-malt Scotch. The mossy, peaty aroma has a slightly burnt nuance, however, and both woody elements merge together to create something definitely quite leathery in feel on my skin. For some odd reason, the overall bouquet sometime reminds me of a significantly less sweet, drier version of Profumum Roma‘s Arso, only with a slightly honeyed tone, sharp animalism, and very little amber. Ambre Muscadin is hardly as thick, dense, sweet or sticky, but there is something about the profoundly dominant cedar focus of both fragrances, along with their smoked sharpness, that feels distantly related. 

Civet. Source: focusingonwildlife.com

Civet. Source: focusingonwildlife.com

The impression is fleeting. The amber in Ambre Muscadin starts to rise to the surface ten minutes into the fragrance’s development. Trailing behind it is the honey which most definitely feels like the white, creamy kind. It is a light touch, never very strongly sweetened, and delicately coated with the sheerest breath of vanilla. Like horses in a race, the notes stalk the front-runners, trying to catch up and tame Ambre Muscadin’s sharpness. They don’t succeed for the next 15 minutes, as that pungently feral, almost civet-like, urinous edge fights with the cedar and vetiver for the lead. It’s not my favorite combination in the world, so it’s quite a relief when the fragrance finally starts to mellow about 20 minutes in. The cedar pipes down to a medium hum, the vetiver feels more woody than burnt, and that animalic pungency is lightly diffused by a sweet, golden warmth.

I frequently feel as though I should write the beginning of this review from the perspective of someone other than myself. I’ve sprayed Ambre Muscadin on a lot of people; at no time has it smelled quite so intensely masculine, dry, woody, or sharp on their skin from the opening burst. In fact, on almost everyone, the aroma bouquet which wafts from the first spray is of a dry, but slightly sweet, caramel flan. Women, men…. it’s always caramel flan. Actually, to be precise, it’s rather more like “sexy flan,” to quote my friend and fellow blogger, Caro of Te de Violetas. She deserves full credit for the term, since she was the first to label it as such. And, yes, lest you are curious, there is a difference between regular flan and “sexy” flan, which all comes down to the degree of sweetness or having a subtle heart of dry darkness amidst the golden hues.

Adding a dry, smoked touch to food using a chef's cloche. Photo: my own.

Adding a dry, smoked touch to food using a chef’s cloche. Photo: my own.

I end up with “sexy flan” too, but it always takes me a whole hour to even begin to reach that same point. The first step occurs around the 20-minute mark, when the flan slowly merges into the drier, woody top notes, resulting in a cedar fragrance that is still smoked, but now also softly tinged with caramel amber. It’s not a fluffy, gooey, or dessert-y amber by any means. It is light, filled with a musky, animalic edge, and flecked with creamed honey.

Then, at the end of the second hour, Ambre Muscadin finally metamorphoses into pure caramel flan that sits on a plate with a tiny sauce of dry vanilla and atop a thin layer of white honey. There are the merest lingering, smoky traces of dark cedar and vetiver at the edges. Much more noticeable, but temperamental, however, is the animalic musk which hovers around like a ghost. It rears its head from time to time behind the sweetened amber, then traipses off, before popping back in unexpectedly. The musk continues to linger as a slightly urinous, Jack-in-the-Box undercurrent before it finally gives up near the end of the fourth hour, and vanishes.

Source: taste.com.au

Source: taste.com.au

By the start of the fourth hour, I smell rather delicious, even if I do say so myself. Delicate, sheer caramel-vanilla amber coats my skin, with a subtle whisper of honey. the bouquet is still too dry and woody to be really “foodie” in nature, though. In fact, the unusual nature of the vanilla element leads me to think that the rumour may, in fact, be true, and that Mona di Orio might have created this fragrance. For one thing, she loved Bourbon Vanilla extract, but often tried to make it rather dry in nature. Something about the amber-vanilla here reminds me of her Ambre, though Ambre Muscadin thankfully never manifests that fragrance’s heavily powdered nature on my skin.

Instead, Ambre Muscadin is a sheer organza of dry, caramel-vanilla, amber flan that continues to feel smoked and somewhat woody in an abstract way. As time passes, the vanilla starts to overtake even the amber, eventually turning Ambre Muscadin into a fragrance that is primarily a dry, abstractly woody vanilla with only the mildest dusting of sweet benzoin powder. It dies away in much the same way, a full 12.75 hours from the time of the first spray.

Source: onlinefabricstore.net

Source: onlinefabricstore.net

Ambre Muscadin is very pretty in its secondary manifestation, and lasts a prodigiously long amount of time for such a sheer, airy fragrance. On my skin, it was never unctuous, heavy, thick, or very sweet. The sillage was initially moderate, despite the fragrance’s sharpness, and hovered 2-3 inches above the skin. Ambre Muscadin started to soften after the first hour, in both forcefulness, weight, and sillage. It took about four hours to turn into a skin scent on me, but the perfume clung on tenaciously despite its sheerness.

My favorite review for Ambre Muscadin comes from Caro of Te de Violetas, though I notice her detailed description sadly never mentions the utterly wonderful “sexy flan” phrase. (I absolutely love that summation, and can never think of Ambre Muscadin as anything else since the moment I heard it!) According to Caro, it is indeed Mona di Orio who is behind the fragrance. Her review also finds some thematic similarities to the late perfumer’s Ambre, and it reads, in part, as follows:

Ambre Muscadin brings instantly to mind two other fragrances that I love: Mona di Orio Ambre and Editions de Parfums Musc Ravageur. Deeper, sweeter and more intense than any of those two, it also smells less abstract.

The opening is all about cedarwood at its most opulent and resinous. For a moment, I wonder whether this should be renamed Cèdre Muscadin. A dark, velvety violet briefly peeks from underneath the coniferous greenness. Before I can even realise it, I am carried away by a whirlwind of honey, amber and vanillaAmbre Muscadin is thick and sweet but the omnipresent cedarwood note cuts through the sweetness keeping it at bay; consequently the composition never becomes cloying. The drydown is powdery and musky, slightly animalic but not excessively dirty.

There is an aura of nostalgia about Ambre Muscadin, but the result is not passé. Nothing in it smells synthetic and I find it wondefully comforting. Its tenacious vanillic embrace holds me for hours on end.

I’m not in love with Ambre Muscadin the way she is, no doubt due to the fact that I had, quite obviously, a very different experience. From the nature of the musk to our perceptions of Ambre Muscadin’s density, to the peaty vetiver in lieu of violet, my version was substantially drier, woodier, smokier, dirtier, and more pungently animalic. There was more of a modern twist on me, with little sweetness, powder, or aura of nostalgia. Yet, I very much agree with the core of her review, and I think she summed it up well. I most definitely share her feeling that the fragrance seems, at times, to be more aptly described as Cèdre Muscadin. In fact, I wrote the exact same thing in my notes. Verbatim. (That should tell you how much the cedar dominates Ambre Muscadin’s opening phase!)

Caro’s experience seems similar to that of Juraj from BL’eauOG who writes:

Ambre Muscadin … is very powdery and woody oriental. Ambre Muscadin is very soft, thick and sweet perfume with generous amber dry down. It feels like the liquid gold on the skin. Opening of Ambre Muscadin is very woody with vetiver, cedar wood and later on, the softness takes over – vanilla, violet, honey notes. Dry down is made of gold because it has beautiful, soft amber and benzoin. For the grand finale, everything is wrapped with musk.

For Lucas of Chemist in the Bottle, things were a little different. For one thing, the musk was as dominant on his skin for the opening stage as it was on mine. It was also somewhat dirty, though it doesn’t seem to have been half as animalic as my experience. His review reads, in part:

Musk plays a significant role in this perfume. It’s sensual and erotic. Not exactly clean as it has some dirtier facets bringing to mind a view of sweaty, sporty body. Amber is luminous here. Not plastic at all but more mineral, slightly marine-salty with a noticeable tones from cedar wood. Later on vanilla and benzoin amplify the amber accord adding it more depth and weight. They add a creamy and slightly gourmand feeling to the composition of Ambre Muscadin. The notes of amber, musk, honey, entwine with each other creating a harmony of aromas.

Most of the people upon whom I sprayed Ambre Muscadin had slightly different experiences from all the above-mentioned bloggers, and even myself. To my surprise, on two of the four people’s skins, the opening had very little cedar and no animalic pungency at all. On one person, Ambre Muscadin was almost entirely a dry, slightly smoky caramel-vanilla flan from the very start. On all of them, I never detected any thickness or strong sweetness. And the sillage was incredibly discrete on two of them after a mere hour, though the longevity was excellent as it usually is for all LM Parfums. 

I generally like Ambre Muscadin, but only after its sharp opening has passed. In fairness, however, the perfume seems to be a little bit of a chameleon, with the nature of that starting phase depending largely on individual skin chemistry. While I may not be swooning over the fragrance as a whole, or tempted to reach for it frequently, I do think Ambre Muscadin is well done. If you’re a huge fan of cedar perfumes, Mona di Orio’s fragrance style, and/or dry, woody, amber-vanillas, I think it’s definitely worth a test sniff.

Disclosure: My sample of Ambre Muscadin was provided by Laurent Mazzone of LM Parfums. That did not influence this review. I do not do paid reviews, my opinions are my own, and my first obligation is honesty to my readers.

Cost & Availability: Ambre Muscadin is an eau de parfum that comes in a 100 ml/3.4 oz bottle. It costs $175, €125 or £125. In the U.S.: Laurent Mazzone’s fragrances are sold exclusively at OsswaldNYC. Unfortunately, none of the U.S. perfume sample sites currently offer samples of this fragrance. However, Osswald offers a special sample offer for its US customers where any 10 fragrances are available in 1 ml vials for $10, with free domestic shipping. You have to call (212) 625-3111. Outside the U.S.: In Europe, you can buy Ambre Muscadin directly from LM Parfums for €195. Samples are also available for €14, and come in a good 5 ml size. In the UK, the line is carried exclusively at Harvey Nichols which sells the Eau de Parfums for £125. In France, you can find all the LM Parfums, along with the 5 ml samples of each, at Laurent Mazzone’s own Premiere Avenue. In Paris, it’s sold at Jovoy. Germany’s First in Fragrance carries the full line and sells Ambre Muscadin for €125, in addition to samples. You can also find LM Parfums at Essenza Nobile, Italy’s Vittoria Profumi, or Alla Violetta. In the Netherlands, you can find the line at ParfuMaria. For all other countries, you can find a vendor near you from Switzerland to Belgium, Lithuania, Russia, Romania, Croatia, Azerbaijan, and more, by using the LM Parfums Partner listing. Laurent Mazzone or LM Parfums fragrances are widely available throughout Europe, and many of those sites sell samples as well. 

24 thoughts on “LM Parfums Ambre Muscadin

  1. Glad to finally read your thoughts on Ambre Muscadin, dear Kafka!
    This “sexy flan” never fails to confort me. I wear purposefully whenever I am to confront stressful situations.
    I see a resemblance between Ambre Muscadin and MdO Ambre, especially in the opening, which is all about cedarwood to me. I adore both of them.
    It was Monsieur Mazzone who confirmed me that the late Mona di Orio composed AM.


    • Thank you for letting me know the rumour was confirmed. Nice job, my dear! 🙂 As for the MdO Ambre, it was far less forcefully cedarish on my skin than the Ambre Muscadin. No vetiver or animalic, urinous elements either. So, for me, the similarities were subtle and popped up much later. To be frank, I think it sounds infinitely better on your skin than on mine. In fact, I think Ambre Muscadin smells better on almost everyone I’ve sprayed it on, than on me. That civet-like note…. too, too much with all the rest for my personal tastes. I *so* wanted the fluffy, sexy flan that I could smell from the very first moment on my father, and on someone else.

      My stupid, pestilential skin. But at least you found true love! And with a blind buy no less. BRAVO, sweetheart! 😀

      • Needless to say, as soon as I read your review, I spritzed myself generously with AM.
        Maybe one day it will work out right for you and I sincerely hope so. Some fragrances do that.

  2. A beautifully written review, Kafka! This does sound well done, but a bit scary… I think it’s exactly the sort of perfume where my skin would amp all the animal notes and I’d smell like a victorian cathouse. Which can have its charm of course, but may also attract local wildlife 😉

    And that civet picture is so damn cute!

    • Heh, I actually thought of you while testing this and writing this, especially as I remember how Onda’s vetiver/green notes were on your skin but, more importantly, how animalic civet-like notes manifest themselves on you in general. You, my dear, should never try this one! I think my experience would be mild as compared to what your skin would do to Ambre Muscadin! lolololol xoxox

      • It’s funny how cumin works fine on me in almost all perfumes, but civet and musk are another matter, even though I like civet.

        I recently tried the Madini Musk Gazelle based on The NonBlonde’s post, and holy wow, talk about animalic and strong. It was beautiful in that animalic way but it just kept growing and growing and growing until I thought it was going to take over the house, and then I had to wash it off. I was very impressed, but I’m not sure I can wear it at all. ~retreats to the golden safety of Kalemat~


        • Oh dear, that Madini Musk Gazelle and your description of it….!! You know, it sounds a bit like the deer stuff I used in training The Hairy German to track, only aroma that wasn’t particularly beautiful. lol. I think I’ll stick to tamer things for my personal scent and will join you in some Kalemat. 🙂

          • Oh, the Hairy German is talented! Does he speak German too?

            Madini does have some great oils, their Ambergris is strong enough to knock a house over. A tiny drop had everyone who entered the house asking what that gorgeous smell was…

  3. I recently read about Ambre Muscadin and was interested enough that I talked another perfumista into splitting a bottle with me, although neither of us have ever sniffed it. Should reach me sometime next week. That lascivious vanilla on the facets fleshy and velvety did me in. Over on FFF there is a perfumista who has picked a “pretend husband” among perfumers; I’m sorry to say that if I picked a pretend husband, it would probably be a copywriter who came out with things like “lascivious vanilla.”

    • Heh, at least you’re inspired by cool adjectives…. 😉 (One of my favorites in this same vein is “salacious.”) A more applicable term in this case is the term Sapiosexual: “One who finds intelligence the most sexually attractive feature; behaviour of becoming attracted to or aroused by intelligence and its use.” The subject came up with someone I know yesterday, and it sounds the term may apply to you too. 🙂

      Re. Ambre Muscadin, well, I’m definitely intrigued to see how it turns out on your skin. One thing I am sure about is that you — with your particular climate, past experiences and skin — will find the sillage to be several levels BELOW weak. Like, nonexistent numbers after the first 30 minutes, probably. Let’s hope I’m wrong about the impact of the climate on this scent. I have to ask: does my experience with the fragrance give you pause at all in light of the fact that you bought it blindly? Also, just out of curiosity, have you tried Mona di Orio’s Ambre?

      • I have to admit, I groaned inwardly when I read your experience with sillage and longevity, but oh well, it’s already paid for, and besides I’m used to this particular problem. It may come in handy in layering. BTW, my problem with Ambre Aurea having kerosene in the opening turned out to be due to my neighbor, who camps frequently, cleaning all his kerosene lanterns near my window. That scent carries hundreds of feet, regardless of climate. When I realized this, I tried Ambra Aurea again and it has a rough opening but not a trace of kerosene. I’m thinking that a few squirts of Muscadin might go a long way toward mitigating the opening, and the skin scent of Ambre Aurea is lovely and can be smelled on my skin an astonishing twelve hours after application. Routine for the rest of you, but just doesn’t happen for me. I would think that, on your unicornine friend, one good application of it would scent her for the rest of her life.
        I am so enchanted with the term “sapiosexual” that I can’t concentrate further on perfume. I think, although my Latin is hardly what it used to be, that a valid alternative translation of this term would be “thinking sex.” That has a whole range of interpretations, at least one of them patently ludicrous in that it’s the one thing that practically nobody thinks intelligently about. But I like your initial definition better, except that the guys at the Apple Genius Bar may be displaying intelligence and it’s use, but I defy anybody to get turned on by them. Just sayin’.

        • LOL @ the Apple Genius Bar comment. *grin* Hilarious! And I’m so glad you’ve sold the mystery of Ambra Aurea having a kerosene opening. That chap’s lanterns must be incredibly powerful. Re. Ambre Muscadin, I’m dying to hear how it ends up on you, so do let me know what you think when you try it! 🙂

  4. Why is it when I read “civet” that I immediately want to try the fragrance. I guess part of me really is still a messy stinky little boy that likes to get dirty. I was also intrigued it was compared to Musc Ravageur, albeit less abstract…another plus. But alas, I’m not a big musk fan as they come out on me, boring and tiresome (Orlando is a good example). Beautiful review as always.

    • Ah, but Orlando’s musk is very, very different from this one. And, don’t forget, you love Absolue Pour Le Soir! That is most definitely musky in a way that is much closer to the one here! Have you tried and liked Mona di Orio’s Ambre? If so, then maybe you’d like this one too, regardless of that musk since its profoundness or animalism does seem to vary from skin to skin.

  5. I actually adore MdO’s Ambre which on my skin is never too powdery like Ambra di Luna which, sadly, on me, smells like expensive baby powder 🙁 . As much as I love cedar I believe that the opening you describe may be too harsh for me but the caramel sexy flan sounds so amazing that I was wondering if you can suggest a perfume that jumps straight into that 2 hour mark. Musc on me almost always smell urinous and I can only enjoy that warm pee smell in Musc Nomade. Excellent article! You got me tempted with LM Sensual Orchid and now with this sexy flan metamorphic creature.

    • WeFadetoGrey (who I always want to call WeFadeToBLACK, lol), you may want to try Ambre Muscadin if you adore MdO’s Ambre. As you can tell from other people’s descriptions, there are obvious variations in the way it opens. Or, to be more precise, in how strong or intensive the cedar is. There is a smoked woody cedar in MdO’s Ambre, too, don’t forget. Then again, given what you’ve said about your skin and musk….. hm. On second thought, no, you better stay away. It sounds like your skin may be much worse than mine, since mine doesn’t *always* turn musk into something very animalic civet-y and urinous.

      Let me think about the sexy flan possibly having a dupe aroma. Honestly, the only thing that immediately comes to mind is the base of SL’s Fourreau Noir. But that is never pure caramel-vanilla flan, even in its drydown. In its final stage, it’s more like woody, patchouli, gingerbread, caramel flan. Orlando has a similar gingerbread-y finish, but that is a fragrance with musk (albeit, a clean one). Okay, I’m going to ponder this issue further for you, but thus far, I’m drawing a complete blank on things that are purely and solely “sexy flan.” (Don’t you love that phrase? lol!)

      • Thanks for you reply! I actually am wearing MdO’s Ambre today because of your post on LM Ambre Muscadin. I adore it. I want to embrace myself in warm pleasure (in no onanistic manner) everytime I get a soft whiff of its beauty. As per our previous conversation on SL’s Fourreau Noir now I feel more tempted than ever. A clean musc on me is just that, a soft, white washed musc that doesnt disturb me much so Orlando may work. Just drop me a line whenever you feel you have a suggestion for the “sexy flan” scent (yes, I like the phrase because I can almost picture the sexyness hiding inside a flan or a flan covered in sexyness??? or? oh well.
        I was thinking that Musc Ravageour doesnt smell like pee on me either. I may have some hope after all 😉

  6. Fantastic review, though I’m really conflicted on how I think I’d feel about it. The notes sound good, but I’m a bit ambivalent toward the idea of smelling like sexy flan, though I could see myself quite liking it. The musk and benzoin with the amber sound so good and comforting though. I feel like one of these days I need to overcome my phone phobia and do the 10-for-$10 at Osswald. You can’t get a better deal than that!

    • Depending on how the musk turned out on your skin, I think you’d enjoy this, Kevin. I don’t know if you’d be swept away at all, but you would like it. 🙂

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